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#61 User is offline Solaris Paradox 

Posted 08 May 2010 - 05:08 AM

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Still a pointed step up, though. Enough of one that I actually bothered to subscribe to a comic for once in my life. Hell, I might even consider subscribing to Sonic Universe as well, one of these days.

...Maybe.

#62 User is offline DigitalDuck 

Posted 08 May 2010 - 07:11 AM

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QUOTE (Ashram @ May 8 2010, 08:04 AM)
A. They're official, and
B. They actually make money, unlike a lot of Sonic's recent games.


Sonic's recent games make more money than the originals did, such is the injustice of this world.

#63 User is offline 0r4ng3 

Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:19 AM

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QUOTE (Trunks @ May 7 2010, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE (0r4ng3 @ May 7 2010, 05:35 PM)
He was a fanfic writer before, so no surprises there. Does he even have any degree in writing or did he jump from the bowels of amateurism to profissionalism with a snap of fingers?


There's something ironic about you criticizing his writing and having a couple of mistakes in your attack.

I think he got the job because he proved he was a good writer, because he garnered enough interest from fellow fans, and because he was ready to handle the series differently than his predecessors. Personally, I think he's great. If you've only got an issue with the fact that he used to write fanfiction, well, take a look around you buddy, you're pretty deep in a fandom already.


How is that the same? I'm not an amateur doing a professional's work.


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Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:45 AM

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QUOTE (DigitalDuck @ May 8 2010, 12:11 PM)
QUOTE (Ashram @ May 8 2010, 08:04 AM)
A. They're official, and
B. They actually make money, unlike a lot of Sonic's recent games.


Sonic's recent games make more money than the originals did, such is the injustice of this world.


Does that include inflation and total sales overtime?

One of the things that I like about Flynn is that he is extremely knowledgeable in Sonic-related information. As you all may have noticed, there's been a number of callbacks in the Flynn era to the old school days:

1) The return of old school badniks in the FCBD.
2) Thrash, in the Sonic Universe Knuckles arc, is based on the transition between selecting Sonic and Knuckles in "Sonic and Knuckles".
3) The next Sonic Universe arc is based on Tails Adventure.

I know there's more, but I can't recall them off the top of my head. Basically, the point I'm making is, Flynn knows what he is doing. He knows what the fans want and what the Sonic franchise is all about. Heck, I would be subscribed to both the Sonic comic and Universe, had I not wanted to support my local comic book store.
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#65 User is offline E-122-Psi 

Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:12 AM

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QUOTE (Enzo Aquarius @ May 8 2010, 11:45 AM)
QUOTE (DigitalDuck @ May 8 2010, 12:11 PM)
QUOTE (Ashram @ May 8 2010, 08:04 AM)
A. They're official, and
B. They actually make money, unlike a lot of Sonic's recent games.


Sonic's recent games make more money than the originals did, such is the injustice of this world.


Does that include inflation and total sales overtime?

One of the things that I like about Flynn is that he is extremely knowledgeable in Sonic-related information. As you all may have noticed, there's been a number of callbacks in the Flynn era to the old school days:

1) The return of old school badniks in the FCBD.
2) Thrash, in the Sonic Universe Knuckles arc, is based on the transition between selecting Sonic and Knuckles in "Sonic and Knuckles".
3) The next Sonic Universe arc is based on Tails Adventure.

I know there's more, but I can't recall them off the top of my head. Basically, the point I'm making is, Flynn knows what he is doing. He knows what the fans want and what the Sonic franchise is all about. Heck, I would be subscribed to both the Sonic comic and Universe, had I not wanted to support my local comic book store.


While those are neat references, that's all they really are, references, and don't make up the depth and execution of the story. Half the characters are still kinda bland and don't add much to the story (though personally I find 'half' better than the 'most' that was before) and many complain Ian suffers giving emotional depth due to too much focus on battles and comedic banter. Some of the references are also kinda dug into the ground and have an outright cheesy feel (it sometimes even has that sort of Family Guy feel 'remember the time we did such and such in issue whatever?' Yeah it was a cool story sure but referencing it won't make the current story cooler all of a sudden).

Another complaint is that Ian is compromising the story to make these references, some believe converting Sally more into her SatAm form contrasts with her development into the comics as a responsible monarch. There's also the more SEGA-ish designs that are hit or miss (I understand them wanting more uniform designs but for some characters it comes at the cost of some of their distinct attributes, Sally and Bunnie look more like Tails and Cream with wigs now).

I'm not saying he's a bad writer, I personally think he does a better job than the previous writers which never really interested me with their work, but he has hiccups in his execution and around exactly half the fanbase seems to want his take on things.
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#66 User is offline Mr. Pictures 

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He also has very little foundation to his writing. I read the Sonic Universe arc featuring Knuckles, which seemed like nothing but set up through most of it, followed by a sudden final battle with the villain. You'd think he was going somewhere with all of the stuff he brings up, but instead, it's totally contrary to whatever is going on. Maybe all the stuff he introduced will get followed up on in another issue or arc, but you'd think he would have done that in the first place with the current arc, instead of leading the readers on.

He also seems to be very fond of exposition in the form of flashbacks.

#67 User is offline Ashram 

Posted 08 May 2010 - 01:21 PM

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QUOTE (Mr. Pictures @ May 8 2010, 01:48 AM)
QUOTE (Ashram @ May 8 2010, 02:04 AM)
A. They're official, and
B. They actually make money, unlike a lot of Sonic's recent games.


I'll bite, but it's still written like fan fiction.


Trust me, I'm not denying that at all. But if you want to get really into it, Ian Flynn writes for a much broader audience (I.E. 13-year-old kids), rather than say, Ken Penders who really only wrote for himself and the small minority of people who liked all of the world-building he did for the echidnas.

#68 User is offline Solaris Paradox 

Posted 08 May 2010 - 07:32 PM

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QUOTE (Mr. Pictures @ May 8 2010, 01:54 PM)
He also seems to be very fond of exposition in the form of flashbacks.


He has nothing on Masashi Kishimoto in that department, though...

#69 User is offline Mr. Pictures 

Posted 08 May 2010 - 07:51 PM

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QUOTE (Solaris Paradox @ May 8 2010, 07:32 PM)
QUOTE (Mr. Pictures @ May 8 2010, 01:54 PM)
He also seems to be very fond of exposition in the form of flashbacks.


He has nothing on Masashi Kishimoto in that department, though...


Probably where he gets it from.

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2) Thrash, in the Sonic Universe Knuckles arc, is based on the transition between selecting Sonic and Knuckles in "Sonic and Knuckles".

This sort of thing is the problem at hand.

#71 User is offline Lanzer 

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Bump.

So did anyone celebrate free comic book day yesterday?

#72 User is offline Zephyr 

Posted 08 May 2011 - 05:36 PM

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QUOTE (Lanzer @ May 8 2011, 03:30 PM)
Bump.

So did anyone celebrate free comic book day yesterday?


I did. Got a Sonic comic and a Magic the Gathering comic. The Sonic one had pretty good art. Didn't understand much of the story since I don't normally read the comics, but I still enjoyed it.

#73 User is offline Sonic Warrior TJ 

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Oh god dammit, I missed it.

#74 User is offline JaxTH 

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FCBD 2011 so far is just a re-telling of SSS #15.

EDIT: Yeah, it is. Just with some after #224 thrown in to make it coherent to Sonic #224.
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#75 User is offline Ashram 

Posted 08 May 2011 - 07:13 PM

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It's a retelling/official retcon of Super Sonic Special #15.

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