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Mario VS Eggman?! Origins ?

#1 User is offline Andrew75 

Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:39 PM

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Posting this topic just for fun, and out of shear boredom. be warned.

For a moment I thought about the rivalry between Sega and Nintendo.
Than Suddenly, I had a random epiphany and asked myself, Could Eggman possibly loosely be based on Mario?

There are some similarities,
1. Mario is fat.......... Eggman is fat.
2. Mario Is saturated with the color red........ Eggman is saturated in the color red.
3. Mario Has a huge ass mustache... Eggman has a Huge ass mustache.
4 Back in the day, Nintendo was Sega's target for demolition , so why not plant a seed of evil in the backs of our minds without us even realizing it...

so ya, it begs me to wonder was Sega secretly shooting for a character loosely based off of Mario, as the main villain, as a sort of hidden propaganda scheme to trash Mario in the backs of our subconscious minds ?!

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Fun little picture that I just dug up on goggle.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:05 PM

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I thought this thread was going to be about what would happen if Mario went up against Eggman instead of Sonic.

As for the topic at hand, if what you speculate is true, perhaps that's also how Wario came to be. If Eggman is a caricature of Mario, then Nintendo probably turned around and said "Oh yeah, well here's a caricature of your caricature!"

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:31 PM

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View PostMachenstein, on 14 April 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

I thought this thread was going to be about what would happen if Mario went up against Eggman instead of Sonic.

As for the topic at hand, if what you speculate is true, perhaps that's also how Wario came to be. If Eggman is a caricature of Mario, then Nintendo probably turned around and said "Oh yeah, well here's a caricature of your caricature!"

Ok, lets fix that.
Mario upercuts Eggman...... pow bam boom,
Eggman runs away. shame shame shame.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:33 PM

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There really are so many colors they had back then in the 8 bit era :|

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View PostAndrew75, on 14 April 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Could Eggman possibly loosely be based on Mario?

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case, since they originally considered making Robotnik the hero at one point.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:20 PM

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Considering the rivalry of the companies back then, I'd believe it. BTW your topic title is a bit misleading.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:43 AM

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I don't think this is a case of caricature, just a few slight coincidences.

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Dan_Hibiki
Now, this guy is the ultimate caricature.

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I always thought the earlyest design for Eggman looked more like a late 80's early 90's Studio Ghibli character
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View Posttrakker, on 15 April 2012 - 06:02 AM, said:

I always thought the earlyest design for Eggman looked more like a late 80's early 90's Studio Ghibli character
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Actually yeah there was that Studio Ghibli character, was he from Laputa: Castle in the Sky? or was it something else?

View PostKingofHarts, on 14 April 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Considering the rivalry of the companies back then, I'd believe it. BTW your topic title is a bit misleading.

Is the topic title really that missleading ? I think its perfect.

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View Posttrakker, on 15 April 2012 - 06:02 AM, said:

I always thought the earlyest design for Eggman looked more like a late 80's early 90's Studio Ghibli character
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yep.

Although these guys couldn't be blue by coincidence
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 04:42 PM

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You mean the design after the Bumblebee Robotnik/Eggman (unless the above pictures are earlier) one?
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Although both sides have credence, it's probably safe to say that we would have heard about this already had this been the case. Plus, wasn't the original good-guy Eggman design based off Teddy Roosevelt because they wanted an 'All American' character to appeal to the west?

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View PostThe Growler, on 15 April 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

You mean the design after the Bumblebee Robotnik/Eggman (unless the above pictures are earlier) one?
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If I remember right, the image Trakker posted was originally an idea for the protagonist of the game, pre-sonic.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:44 PM

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The Sonic and Mario games are actually in the same universe. Eggman and Mario are the same characters, and each franchise is simply one side's depiction of the epic struggle.

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View PostZephyr, on 15 April 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

The Sonic and Mario games are actually in the same universe. Eggman and Mario are the same characters, and each franchise is simply one side's depiction of the epic struggle.

Sonic just eats loads of mushrooms on the way to fight Mario and starts hallucinating scary techno-industrial nightmares and robots.

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