How Sega All But Ruined Tails

They ruined tails when they added a voice. Especially Heroes.

 

LMAO xD

 

They ruined the characters when they exaggerated to the limit one or two good attributes and/or flaws of the characters.
And we got or an "perfect being" more hollow than air itself making it look an like an total jerk or an idiot that is the joke of the fiction consumers/creators that can describe the whole being with one single "offensive" word.

Basically Sega can create good characters but they don't know how to use them or to develop them nowadays, making them useless and hard to like them.
And mediocre voice work doesn't help at all hiding those flaws.

 

My favorite 'version' of Tails is in Sonic Adventure 1 & 2. He shows he is incredibly intelligent, building planes, mechs, and little devices to help along the way. But at the end of the day, he is still a child. He makes stupid mistakes - like the near fatal one in SA2 that nearly got Sonic killed. Maybe even the most 'Human' of all the Sonic characters in that sense, but that's a different story.

As soon as his little inventions and vehicles began to disappear, he became nearly useless as a character and sometimes it feels they bring him back just because he is a once loveable sidekick rather than for a proper part in the story.

 

Tails as a character was perfect in SA1 and SA2, but has never really had good gameplay in a 3D game yet. He was broken in SA, you didn't really play "as" Tails in SA2 or SH, and he was a fucking atrocious piece of broken ass beyond belief in Sonic '06.

 

I think I have to agree here. I think it was cool how they made Tails more independent and somewhat manlier in the Adventure games. After that he pretty much went back to just following Sonic around and helping him out with the Tornado, which doesn't really bother me because that's what he's been doing from the start anyway. =P It's kind of cool that Tails is still popular and he hasn't ended up like Knuckles (aka not appearing as much despite still being popular but apparently not as popular as SHADOW OMG!11! <.<).

I also agree here. Not that I didn't like his gameplay in SA2 and Heroes, but I see what you mean about not really playing as him. I guess this is because they could never really find a way to make his gameplay unique and different from Sonic's without being too different. Though after Unleashed, I think it would be neat if there was a game where Sonic's stages were like the day stages in Unleashed and Tails's stages played more like Sonic's stages in the Adventure games. That way they could make him slower without being a slug and his gameplay can be unique and different without being too different.

 

Pretty much this.

I'd also like to add on, my absolute favorite version of Tails was in-fact S3K simply because he got me to hidden places when playing Sonic and Tails in S3K, like the higher alternate path in Hydrocity, and the cliff full of like every box in Hidden Palace.

Tails is a great character, and the change from Classic to modern is worse for him than Classic Sonic to Modern imo.

 

I got to disagree here. No matter how annoying the voice may be, I don't see how the voice alone can hurt any character, let alone Tails.

What killed Tails imo was giving him character development in Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2, and then completely ignoring said character development in Sonic Heroes. And he wasn't the only one that was hurt in Sonic Heroes either <_<

 

Yeah, they fucked all the characters over pretty hard in Heroes. Knuckles became a dumbfuck with an IQ of exactly 30 whose gimmic went from I AM A LONER, I GUARD DA EMMEROOWDS to HEY GUYS TEAMWORK I SMASH THINGS WITH MY FISTS DOY HOY. Let's not forget the (In my opinion) atrocious reintroduction of the Chaotix, which revealed to us that after Knuckles Chaotix, Vector started taking heavy steroids, Charmy was somehow caught in a time Vortex that made him six years old, Espio decided being a ninja was the cool thing to do, and to deal with their collective madness they started a crack detective agency.


What.

 

At least Espio was already a detective from the get-go. I guess he just somehow convinced Vector and Charmy to join him.

That doesn't explain the redesigns, though.

 

We need Tails to follow Sonic around again. He's just more annoying when he does other things besides that, and they really over did the whole "inventor" thing about him. The poor guy hardly leaves his workshop anymore, and he plays like a broken piece of shit in 06(well, everyone did).

Most importantly, he has to be cute again. He just looks and acts annoying in general now.

If he gets into Sonic 4 episode 2, I want him to stay a mute, and do nothing but run, spin dash, fly, and carry Sonic around.

Like everyone said, the moment Tails was ruined was when they gave him a voice. I personally think everyone should be mute anyway.

 

Tails was ruined as soon as Sega decided he wasn't a girl.

 

I don't think that recount of Tails' history is entirely accurate. The Master System Sonic 2 (and by extension, the Game Gear one) is technically his first appearance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Tails' Adventure is one of those times when Sonic and Tails weren't joined at the hip, rather than before they even met.

You'll note that people so far have moaned (:v about the modern era games and how they ruined Tails. I also noticed that your first post was about Tails as a character in the early games. The early games weren't typically about character development; Tails' role really was to be Sonic's lovable sidekick. They didn't really come out and say 'Tails is an expert mechanic' often. The modern games do it quite a lot.

Concerning his voice, it can be put down to casting, scripts, what have you. Tails though, was voiced by a young boy in Adventure (up to Heroes where they cast another boy to voice him when the previous VA became too old to voice Tails), rather than by a woman, like he is now. It can be more authentic, but it can also have some ramifications. One is of course present in media such as video games, where characters don't age unless the game actually states that they have aged. A boy's voice will eventually deepen, and it's no less true for those who are VAs. As such, the VA will outgrow the role eventually. Another is that a child VA can gain so much experience before their voice changes and they become unsuitable for their role. Still, I respect when they play it straight and cast a boy to play the role of a boy rather than a woman.

Tails was a great character though, the changes he undergone in the modern series are similar to Sonic's physical redesign. Like most of the other characters, I guess?

 

lol. I don't know much about Knuckles Chaotix, considering that I've only played it once and somehow got stuck towards the very beginning, So I can't offer much of an opinion on their reintroduction. I can say that they did well for comic relief imo. Playing through their versions of the levels got pretty annoying at times though.

 

Inconsistency is what ruined Tails. Knuckles is still as dimwitted as ever, Robotnik always wants to take over the world, Sonic is still the laid-back super fast blue hedgehog he always was. But Tails? Lets see, he went from irritatingly falling into bottomless pits, to engineering his own transforming emerald-powered super-plane with missiles, to being cute, to being even more irritating as fuck than before. On top of that, his abilities are...well just name it and somehow they will make it into the next Sonic game. Firing lazers out of his eyes like a fucking X-Men?

While they are screwing around with new roles, abilities, and personalities, Tails should be given a completely outrageous role for the next Sonic game. If he truly is as smart as Eggman, have Tails try to take over the world for once. Have him throw a fit about being in Sonic's shadow all this time, and build his own space fortress in which to seek revenge. Eggman will then be given a role alongside Sonic to defeat the little bastard, and reclaim his reputation as the smart one. Knuckles would be tricked again, naturally.

 

Tails can arguably be stated as a Fixer Sue, a character that is basically a plot point to solve a certain peril or obstacle in a story (often in a deux ex machina-esque way), and has little real personality and role outside of it. The thing is, the contemporary version of Tails is dull. He has no real bond with Sonic and few real flaws outside his low self esteem (often leading to Shilling the Wesley moments). This was the guy who used to be a hyperactive little brat that idolized Sonic, now has the persona of a dull forty year old.

You want to fly somewhere; Tails can do it.
You want a fighter machine; Tails can make one.
You want a giant sized space ship that can travel space, time and dimentions; ..well Tails conviently has one in his workshop right now.
You want a unique interaction or story development with a character;...... well Tails can tell you how to save the game...

Sure Eggman and other tech wizs make a lot of crazy stuff too, but the difference is that a lot of these are actual characters, they are designed to be loveable and entertaining outside just making things.

In fact a large amount of the Sonic franchise's cast consists of lifeless Fixer Sues, Tails, Rotor, NICOLE, Shade, even Sonic himself on some occasions, it would be nice if they actually focused on these characters in depth rather than just using them because they can't figure out an object or scenario that can do their job.

 

0_o What did I just read? LOL