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The Sound of Speed discussion thread. An OverClocked Remix Album.

#16 User is offline Jayextee 

Posted 13 April 2011 - 11:44 AM

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QUOTE (Tweaker @ Apr 13 2011, 02:07 AM)
the new OCR kids try way too hard to change the songs up beyond recognition


Tweaker fails it, like the ill-educated philistine he is. This is in fact a clever subversion of videogames themselves, by remixing in a way that the very music itself becomes a game of trying to figure out what the fuck the original tune was. Add to the fact that most of the remixes seem to be of the special stage theme; echoing it's repetition for those trying to complete Sonic with all the Chaos Emeralds; and we have a truly inspired, subversive work here. Hats off to those talented gentlemen of OCRemix for fully-preserving my memories in such a way.

The above content is bullshit. Only Shifting Islands and Final Progression were remotely listenable. Not impressed.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 12:20 PM

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QUOTE (Namo @ Apr 13 2011, 12:04 PM)
Think the Sound of Speed is bad? Wait'll ya wrap your brain around THIS one.

http://icecap.ocremix.org

An entire OCR album dedicated to... Icecap Zone. I gotta say, that is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

You know that was an April Fools joke, right?
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 12:43 PM

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Really? I thought it was a legit album. An album that fails in more ways than one.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:09 PM

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QUOTE (cornholio857 @ Apr 13 2011, 01:43 PM)
Really? I thought it was a legit album. An album that fails in more ways than one.

ReCapitated was designed from the very start to be absolutely awful. The concept is ridiculous and all the remixes are purposefully bad and/or silly. It was actually a pretty successful April Fools joke, because for some reason people like you believed it was real and got all huffy about it ("These remixes suck!" and "All Ice Cap Zone remixes? Are you fucking serious?"). What's even more funny is people emailing us at OCR and telling us they liked certain remixes from that "album." specialed.png

You can think and say whatever you'd like about Speed of Sound (and OCR albums in general), because hey, what people like when it comes to music is pretty much just a matter of taste, right? But bringing up ReCapitated as evidence of OCR's supposedly crappy approach to albums is kind of silly and pointless. smile.png

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:20 PM

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On the plus side, I always knew which song was the basis for each and every one of ReCapitated without trying to listen for tiny shards of familiar melody in amongst the whatnot.

Back on topic, the irony of Speed of Sound is that I discovered it right after this:



Which is (a) not on SoS and (b) far superior to the lot.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:21 PM

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I never got "huffy" about it. I gave it a listen and decided I didn't like it. No more, no less. But had I known it was an April Fools prank I would've thought different and appreciated the humor. Also, Ice Cap Zone is one of my all time favorite Sonic tunes, so when I heard about an album with all Ice Cap remixes I was pretty excited. But thanks for clearing that up. So there was a method to the madness after all! smile.png

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:39 PM

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QUOTE (cornholio857 @ Apr 13 2011, 02:21 PM)
I never got "huffy" about it. I gave it a listen and decided I didn't like it. No more, no less. But had I known it was an April Fools prank I would've thought different and appreciated the humor. Also, Ice Cap Zone is one of my all time favorite Sonic tunes, so when I heard about an album with all Ice Cap remixes I was pretty excited. But thanks for clearing that up. So there was a method to the madness after all! smile.png

I didn't mean to imply you got huffy. My sentence structure might have been unclear. Sorry for that.
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QUOTE (Jayextee @ Apr 13 2011, 10:20 PM)
Back on topic, the irony of Speed of Sound is that I discovered it right after this:



Which is (a) not on SoS and (b) far superior to the lot.

So what part of this actually is a remix part?
Everything I've heard was plain Labyrinth played by slightly different instruments.
Yes I listened the whole thing.

You may or may not like sound of speed but at least they are trying to be creative.
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Comparing this album to ReCapitated isn't that farfetched, to be honest. My first reaction when I heard most of these songs for the first time was "this is a joke, right?". I have to agree with many of the people who already posted in this thread: this album, like most of recent OCR stuff, is definitely subpar. I think I'm not even going to keep these songs on my hard drive, which should sound like blasphemy for a Sonic fan like me.

Clockwork Criminal is good, though. I might keep that one and delete the rest of the album.

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QUOTE (Felik @ Apr 13 2011, 08:02 PM)
So what part of this actually is a remix part?


All of it.

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"To recombine (audio tracks or channels from a recording) to produce a new or modified audio recording."

From here.

Sure, it's going back to that old-school of OCRemix that just created an electronic version of the original song with only a few changes, but it makes for a more recognisable remix than some of the recent efforts where the remixer has tried to insert 'original' melodies that are more often that not some new section that doesn't belong at all. But it's not just some VSTs and a new drum-set. Oh, no. This remix begins differently to the original (in fact, it actually leaves the intro till the end) and the bassline is different. Oh, and there's the bit that adds the 'drowning' music, and kicks back in with a subdued tempo. Don't remember the original tune doing that. There's other minor ameliorations here and there. It's not 100% the original tune, just very faithful.

Maybe I'm just weird in wanting a remix of a tune I love to actually resemble the tune I love. Maybe.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:23 PM

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QUOTE (Slingerland @ Apr 12 2011, 09:03 PM)
We have over a million simple guitar "remixes" of Green Hill. Did we really need more?


Really? A million? As far as OCR goes this is the first "simple guitar" version of that song on the site, and it's a pretty straightforward version of the song to boot. Also, not counting Metamorphic Rock (which only uses Green Hill Zone in the opening), it's only the 4th GHZ remix there. I realize you're using hyperbole, but even then, I don't think that there are really a lot of them. Maybe on YouTube, where people just webcam themselves playing along with the game soundtrack on their guitar?

As an artist, I know that I generally don't care if folks have approached a song a certain way before; if that's where my inspiration is taking me, that's where I'll go.

Whether you like the song or not is up to you, obviously, but asking a question like "Did we really need more?" or (as I suspect you really mean) "Was this really necessary?" is a bit pointless. No, none of it is necessary. Necessity isn't really the point.

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I will wait it out for Level99's album.
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Ok. I did not fully enjoy this album. I like to go into OCR albums thinking of the songs as songs, purging my fanboy side, just to be fair in my judgment.

There were one or two funky songs I started to like... I actually started out enjoying "Fifty Rings to Ride." It made good BG music while I did stuff. Then you get the crap ass self insert vocals and you can't help but facepalm. And then I get to "Under Construction." Oh, this one sounds fun. Oh great. Vocals. OCR, you're good people sometimes, but let's face it... You can't sing. Stop trying to self insert your shitty vocals, even if it is scat. You just can't do it right.

And then you get "Bubble Junkie." Unfortunately, I went into this one with my fanboy cap on. I love Labyrinth Zone's theme to death. But it wasn't the fanboy in me that killed it. It was that damn abuse of that synth voice that ruins so many good remixes. Some people like that sound, I guess. I don't.

The only songs that made me perk my head up a bit came at the end. Both "Clockwork Criminal" and "Final Progression." I have to commend "Clockwork Criminal" for making my soul flutter a bit when I heard the refrain the first time. I was somewhat disappointed going into it because it sounded like one of those "let's abuse the in-game sfx for 4 minutes and call it a remix" types at first. It was not, luckily, and only opened and ended with any large grouping of sfx, spacing out more appropriate sfx throughout the song. I'll be honest, I started to think Virt had a hand in composing this one, at least with the refrain harmony.

As for "Final Progression," it felt like a generic techno song. Not bad at all really. It was a rather unique twist on the melody, I suppose. When I put my fanboy cap on, I have to say it doesn't fit the stage at all, but as a song in general, it's ok.

For those of you looking for a better album to dry your tears with, why not give Megaman: The Robot Museum a shot? Not too bad from what I've been listening to so far.

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QUOTE (DarkeSword @ Apr 13 2011, 02:09 PM)
You can think and say whatever you'd like about Speed of Sound (and OCR albums in general), because hey, what people like when it comes to music is pretty much just a matter of taste, right? But bringing up ReCapitated as evidence of OCR's supposedly crappy approach to albums is kind of silly and pointless. smile.png


I wasn't aware that it was an April Fool's joke. Lose the hostility.

Also, I tend to be very impressed with OCR's remix albums. I loved Project Chaos and Hedgehog Heaven, The Answer, Serious Monkey Business, No Balls No Glory, Hybridism, Chrono Symphonic, The American Album, Threshold of a Dream, and Rise of the Star.

I just don't really like this one.

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There's a few musics I enjoyed, but it's mostly just cuts and pieces out of each one. It has no memorable songs like Project Chaos had, but to be fair, none are as bad as Project Chaos' worst either (not even close). At least I recognised most of the music time and not just some lost part amongst all the original work.

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