General Project Thread & Feedback

Ouch! Add the proper coloured green to those 'spikes' please - perhaps try to blend it in a bit more too, instead of it looking like another image pasted on top of the grass.

Btw, 3d grass onto a 2D image in that fashion kinda doesn't work, sorry.


*edit* what Tweaker said.

 

Not bad Jimmy, but I still think we need to match the level of texture-detail to the HD concept I posted earlier.

 

Tweaker hit it right on the button. The grassy texture looks like crap compared to all of the other art that has been done. Make it something new while still trying to retain the old style feeling.

 

Okay, I'm sorry, but... what? "Not bad?"

I know you're trying to be encouraging, but, uh... for fucks sake, have some backbone! If we want this to have the best quality possible, then we NEED the best quality possible. Both of those examples are half-assed ugly pieces of shit and shouldn't even be considered for the final product.

As I stated above, we need to stylistically redesign the levels, not run them through Super2xsai and fucking jack off all over them.

 

eh?

 

FUCKING STOP

And while you're at it, stop ripping off my fucking avatar. I had a hard enough time getting Marc to let me use it.

 

Relax. I explained what was needed for it to be improved, I want to see what people can come up with. If you just get rude with them they'll say "bah screw it" and won't produce anything. Better something not too good than nothing at all.

 

Oh, and I made this item box, but it's a bit cartoonish I think. If you guys don't like it, I'll probably stop :\

 

I seriously disagree.

But if that's what you think, I can just take a picture of a huge wad of shit and superimpose it all over the original level art with inverted colors. Hey, it's better than nothing at all!

 

It's a start, but for one thing putting the shadow OVER the grass is a bad idea. It doesn't look right -- what's casting it?
I also really don't like the ground texture. It doesn't look good at all.

Perhaps more inspiration could come from this?

 

@ Tweak :The grass I was using was an original brush I created, pixel by pixel and used over the art, not some random piece of grass. Telling someone something is crap without even giving some ideas for improvement, you just jump down their throats.

 

The thing is Tweaker, this thread has a lot of views. And if we get forum members looking at the stuff that's just not up to the quality we're looking for, they'll think, "Hey! I can do much better than this". Which will then prompt them to produce something, whereas they wouldn't have produced anything if they hadn't looked at the not-so-good thing.

In a project of this sort which is open to everyone you can expect a lot of not-so-good things to be posted, so there's no point trying to go against it. Just encourage, encourage and let people try to improve it even if their talents aren't quite yet good enough. The fact that people are producing things shows interest and interest shows growth.

 

Because there IS no room for improvement. It's going in a completely opposite artistic direction, and if I were to see such a thing in a Sonic game I would vomit.

Think about the original art: Surreal environments, bright, simple colors, visually pleasing. If vector-based games like Loco Roco have anything to say, this is very easily recreated in a higher-quality format, with brilliant results.

 

Me too. I'd rather just use some automatic filter as a placeholder instead of something that looks nothing like the real thing... or something that looks like an old shareware game.

Or it will prompt them to think "Oh, somebody has already done it so I won't bother with that anymore".

 

Logically, they are not very likely to think that when there are so many people here posting constructive criticism.

Of course there's room for improvement, because they start again from the beginning, just as Blue Streak did.

Look, there's no need to be so fearful of these WIPs. None of them have been decided upon as suitable for the final piece, so at this stage it is truly a waste of energy to try and prevent people from producing things.

 

I gave it a shot, that's what counts in my opinion

my last try : here

 

here's another try from me, and then I'll stop since my art sucks :\

 

I don't know if your art sucks Jimmy because I haven't seen it yet - it looks like your upscaling the sprites using some sort of filter, rather than remastering and recreating the sprites themselves which is what we're looking to do.

 

Read what I said above. If you want to try and put something out, you're going about it the wrong way.

Look at the two images I posted closely. You'll see what's actually required when it comes to remaking the level art.

Jimmy, please stop. All you're doing is upscaling the original art with no changes whatsoever. If we wanted to do that, we could just run hq4x and call it a day.

 

I'm making vectors of the original, not just upscaling the old art.