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#16 User is offline JaxTH 

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View PostBlack Squirrel, on 31 December 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

At 4:05 you can see the digitising equipment being used to create the in-game sprites.

Sega used big, presumably bespoke computer things called "Sega Digitizer Systems". They've been seen before - the earliest ones used light pens, these ones are "Model III" units which use tablets.


The tablet seen is a "Mitablet-II" and was created by a company called "Graphtec". I can't find much about it, but it... seems more like a glorified computer mouse than a traditional tablet.

I wonder where the Model II screenshots are hiding .

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View PostPengi, on 31 December 2017 - 05:48 AM, said:

On Twitter a few weeks ago, Ohshima did say that Charmy Bee and Amy were characters he created. Kazuyuki Hoshino has said that himself, Ohshima, the manga staff etc all had input on Amy's design. I think in either a Summer of Sonic or Sonic Boom event it was confirmed that Sega of Japan contributed characters and concepts to the manga, so this cements it. I wonder if the Blues Brothers style Vector ever showed up in the manga?

So what they confirmed is that the Manga was a product of Sega of Japan in the same way that Sonic Boom is a product of Sega of America (or what's left of it); it's not "canon" to the game, but it allow them to import characters to said games with little legal issues. Mind posting some proof?

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Regarding that tablet... i discovered this... "the Digitizer consists of a rectangular smooth surface as a draughting board , underneath the surface it has a position-sensing mechanism. The designer interacts through a "Puck" (the mouse). It is an absolute measuring device. It uses , what Graphtec calls , 3-phase electromagnetic induction to determine position. It contains a printed circuit board which is etched with evenly spaced traces on both sides one representing the X axis and the other the Y axis. The "Puck" contains a coil which acts as a receiver or transmiter. In transmitor mode electronic signals in the board can be mesured for their strength, and the highest strength signifies the location of the desired point. The digitizer controller mesures the position of the X axis and the Y axis. The Digitizer is made of two sheets separated by a number of spacer dots. One is deposited with, a resistive film whereas the other is coated with a conductive film. A small voltage is appllied across the resistive film. When pressure is applied by the puck on the Digitizer pad, the potential of the conductive film, will be proporcional to the distance from the end, which gives the locational data. The measurement, is again, done alternatively, in X axis and Y axis... a digitizer communicates with the computer, in single point mode, as the coordinates of the point are transmitted when a button of the "Puck" is pressed. This is used for digitizing discrete points such an already existing drawing. However, when continuous sets of points are required, the "Puck" can be moved continuously, over that line, and the coordinates of the points are sent to the computer at a specified sampling rate, such as 200 coordinate points per second"... 3 Graphtec patents ... https://docs.google....s/US4806708.pdf , https://docs.google....s/US5414226.pdf, https://docs.google....s/US4795858.pdf

Edit: Just leaving those 2 pictures of a more recent model of a digitizer manufactured by Graphtec and the respective "Puck" (a cordless "Puck"), for reference... http://auctions.afim...186669123.1.jpg , http://auctions.afim...186669123.2.jpg

This information was extracted from the book "CAD/CAM Principles & Applications" (Computer Aided Design/Manufacturing) by Posinasetti Nageswara Rao...
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It's a bit blurry, but if you look closely at the image of Nicky on the right, you can see that he's holding a violin.

His violin did actually make an appearance in at least one story of the manga: http://pencilhill.tu...ost/86835030568

I saw an auction (that had, unfortunately, already ended) for the July 1992 issue of Shogaku Ninensei (the 2nd grade magazine).

It contained a foldout featuring Anton's weird family, seen in the video.

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View PostPengi, on 21 January 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

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It's a bit blurry, but if you look closely at the image of Nicky on the right, you can see that he's holding a violin.

His violin did actually make an appearance in at least one story of the manga: http://pencilhill.tu...ost/86835030568

I saw an auction (that had, unfortunately, already ended) for the July 1992 issue of Shogaku Ninensei (the 2nd grade magazine).

It contained a foldout featuring Anton's weird family, seen in the video.

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I won that auction, I'll get the scans once I get it.

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View PostCasshern, on 21 January 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

I won that auction, I'll get the scans once I get it.


Oh! Awesome! :D

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And here it is!

The download link to the PDFs is also here.

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I have translations as well, one for the actual comic, the other for the page spread with bios and stuff. Too bad we don't own more issues, this seems to be a multi-part story. The manga is read from left-to-right, obviously.
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Great stuff Casshern and Windii!

So Anton had a little sister too. I wonder if Vector ever showed up in any of them. Of all the Shogakukan Learning Journals, the 2nd grade magazine has the most interesting art, despite being fairly off model. So far, it seems like every discovered chapter of the 2nd grader magazine Sonic comic has been in full color.

For what it's worth, according to Japanese Wikipedia, the series ran through the six primary school Learning Journals (grades 1-6) from April 1992 to August 1993, whilst the Corocoro Comics Special series ran August 1992 to April 1994.

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View PostPengi, on 09 February 2018 - 10:31 PM, said:

Great stuff Casshern and Windii!

So Anton had a little sister too. I wonder if Vector ever showed up in any of them. Of all the Shogakukan Learning Journals, the 2nd grade magazine has the most interesting art, despite being fairly off model. So far, it seems like every discovered chapter of the 2nd grader magazine Sonic comic has been in full color.

For what it's worth, according to Japanese Wikipedia, the series ran through the six primary school Learning Journals (grades 1-6) from April 1992 to August 1993, whilst the Corocoro Comics Special series ran August 1992 to April 1994.

Good to know the dates, I'll keep an eye for more issues.

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View PostCasshern, on 10 February 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

View PostPengi, on 09 February 2018 - 10:31 PM, said:

Great stuff Casshern and Windii!

So Anton had a little sister too. I wonder if Vector ever showed up in any of them. Of all the Shogakukan Learning Journals, the 2nd grade magazine has the most interesting art, despite being fairly off model. So far, it seems like every discovered chapter of the 2nd grader magazine Sonic comic has been in full color.

For what it's worth, according to Japanese Wikipedia, the series ran through the six primary school Learning Journals (grades 1-6) from April 1992 to August 1993, whilst the Corocoro Comics Special series ran August 1992 to April 1994.

Good to know the dates, I'll keep an eye for more issues.


Unfortunately, it doesn't specify the run for each magazine. So whilst it debuted in April 1992 in the second grade magazine (小学二年生), it might not have debuted in the others until later. Similarly, it's possible that some may have ended earlier than August 1993.

Also, here are a few manga pages I saw on Twitter recently, including a strange version of Mecha Sonic:

https://twitter.com/...988342408908801
https://twitter.com/...978516404539392
https://twitter.com/...989845437702145

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https://www.youtube....h?v=qDihkZhTvTY

This video is nothing new but this freeze-frame might be.

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It might be related. Or it might not.


I'll let someone more obsessive try and stitch together the other sketches. "," and "." advance through frames of video in YouTube.

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Gonna bump this to say that my friend Blob has translated the Fantasy Factory documentary into English. You know, for those who might be interested. He couldn't add the subs to the original video because it didn't have community contributions turned on, so he had to download it and put it on his channel. If only VHS tapes of this stuff were easy to find.

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