don't click here

General Project Thread & Feedback

Discussion in 'Project: Sonic Retro (Archive)' started by Retro_Stew, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. Phos

    Phos

    Going for the high score on whatever that little b Member
    3,318
    0
    0
    Sonic CD also did that. I like it, because I don't like the wheel o feet.
     
  2. nineko

    nineko

    I am the Holy Cat Tech Member
    6,308
    486
    63
    italy
    And I don't like the figure eight. Opinions.

    Something used in at least 8 games (Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 1 8-bit, Sonic 2 8-bit, Sonic Chaos, Sonic Triple Trouble) screams more "classic" than something used in only 2 (Sonic CD and Brawl).

    I'm sorry for all the peel-out and figure eight fans, but Sonic is not meant to run in that way. Period.
     
  3. muteKi

    muteKi

    Fuck it Member
    7,851
    131
    43
    You can MAYBE use it when Sonic reaches his maximum speed to show that he's done so, but that's about it as far as I'm concerned. I never saw the appeal for me, the wheel-o-feet is classic and as much Sonic as it is classic cartoons.
     
  4. Aquaslash

    Aquaslash

    <The Has-been Legend> Moderator
    Figure 8 should be for max speed, regardless of peel out usage.

    Everyone wins.
     
  5. Chimpo

    Chimpo

    I Gotta Be Me Member
    8,645
    1,506
    93
    Los Angeles, 2029
    Don't Forget! Try Your Best!
    Everyone but the guy animating it.

    |:(
     
  6. Blanche Hodapp

    Blanche Hodapp

    *urp* Eternal Queen
    As well as looking more "classic", I'd like to point out that the wheel-o-feet, while still technically impossible, at least looks more natural and physically possible than the figure-eight.

    I mean, I never understood how the figure-eight was meant to represent Ludicrous Speed, anyway.
     
  7. Overlord

    Overlord

    Now playable in Smash Bros Ultimate Moderator
    19,239
    972
    93
    Long-term happiness
    There's something about either infinity (as in infinite speed?) or rubber-banding in there somewhere, I'd guess.
     
  8. Aerosol

    Aerosol

    Not here. Moderator
    11,163
    573
    93
    Not where I want to be.
    Sonic (?): Coming summer of 2055...?
    Again, jumping in kinda late here, but I didn't see this issue resolved so I'm making a proposition.

    A few pages ago, someone mentioned that it never felt natural that Knuckles had the spindash. I agree with this, as I always felt that the spindash was Sonic's move, that Tail's picked up due to him being Sonic all the time. However, I also agree with the fact that he shouldn't have anything other than the spindash. How to solve this dilemma?

    Same way Sonic Advance 2 did. Amy had a spindash, except, it wasn't a spindash per se. It was a "run in place like a baffoon then shoot off in a ball"-dash. Why can't knuckles also have his own way of performing the spindash? Just throwing that out there, because current discussion of moves is pretty pointless due to reasons that I'm sure Chimpo has reiterated more than once.
     
  9. The KKM

    The KKM

    Welcome to the nExt level Member
    2,346
    129
    43
    Portugal
    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog comic books
    About why the peel-out symbolized speed... Sonic throws his body forward, and his arms back, and looks much more aerodynamic. Maybe we SHOULD include it as a max speed animation.
     
  10. Galaxia

    Galaxia

    Member
    718
    0
    0
    Manchester, England
    degloving infants
    Yeah, I think if we had to include the peel out figure-8 thing, it'd only be for full speed. I personally wouldn't want the peel out in this game; it's somewhat of a game breaker compared to the spin dash. At least the spin dash could be utilized to break through some obstacles- the peel out didn't really do anything to aid gameplay.
     
  11. OSM

    OSM

    retro is for losers! Member
    4,156
    0
    0
    Doing absolutely nothing
    I like this idea, I think we should go with this.
     
  12. The KKM

    The KKM

    Welcome to the nExt level Member
    2,346
    129
    43
    Portugal
    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog comic books
    If there is really no way the Peel Out can be entered, I believe the same body and a inclined wheel-o-feet makes the same effect, somewhat.

    EDIT: [​IMG] something amongst these lines. (I still don't understand the mechanics of image posting in this forum)
     
  13. Galaxia

    Galaxia

    Member
    718
    0
    0
    Manchester, England
    degloving infants
    That looks like a nice alternative actually.
     
  14. Phoenix

    Phoenix

    Has really been far even as decided to use even go Member
  15. Phos

    Phos

    Going for the high score on whatever that little b Member
    3,318
    0
    0
    Reminds me of the way Sonic was running in this commercial. And with the pose he has there, his leg would be passing through his arm. That's what I see.

    But if you're going to lower Sonic's acceleration when he reaches high speed, a different pose would be a good way to communicate this to the player. And during the "figure 8" run, Sonic's feet don't actually move in a figure 8. If you look at the individual sprites, it's just supposed to communicate that his fett are moving way too fast to be seen. Plus, the figure 8 is only four frames.
     
  16. The KKM

    The KKM

    Welcome to the nExt level Member
    2,346
    129
    43
    Portugal
    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog comic books
    Yes it would go through his arm, since I just slapped them to show it, didn't edit much. Fact is, I can understand that logic of not seeing Sonic's feet, and wouldn't mind using the Peel-Out. But the 4 frame argument holds no water- Chimpo's making everything super-smooth, so even if we DO end up using the peel-out, it will have a lot more frames.
     
  17. Polygon Jim

    Polygon Jim

    Eternal Tech Member
    0
    3
    0
    across town from Hinchy
    All the bitches.
  18. Rika Chou

    Rika Chou

    Tech Member
    5,276
    169
    43