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New Sonic 1 boss info?

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by Elusive, Dec 17, 2005.

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  1. Elusive

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  2. ICEknight

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    YES, at last somebody has uploaded that ad!

    I brought up this red ball thing many years ago and nobody seemed to know what was I talking about. Thanks for the link.
     
  3. LocalH

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    Whoa, that's a weird fucking ball.
     
  4. McAleeCh

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    Interesting that the HUD says "RINGS", yet we've seen screens of the GHZ boss as normal with the checkered ball. Also, is it me or does the ball's sprite appear to rotate in real time? It looks more like a video edit than an actual feature of the game, to me..
     
  5. LocalH

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    I've clipped out only the frames with the boss fight, put them in high-bitrate XviD (I chose 10000kbps but it only uses what it needs, so it's substantially less), and uploaded the resulting AVI here.
     
  6. Elusive

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    Something else I noticed: the ball does no damage to Sonic. He starts off in the middle of it :/
     
  7. FinalBeyond

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    Hmm, that is pretty odd. Thanks for showing the site though. I love the Sonic 2 "Infomercial".
     
  8. ICEknight

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    Heh, my brother used to say that they might have edited it so it looked like the apple in Castle of Illusion (also featured in one of those ads).
     
  9. Rika Chou

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    That's really weird.

    The rotation is what gets me....is it rotating in different directions as it moves? Why would they edit it anyway? Crazy....
     
  10. Deathbyteacup

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    I've been analizing the frames. The ball looked sort of pasted on top to me, so I checked out the frames where the ball starts to go behind the left platform. If you look at this picture;

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    as the ball goes behind the left platform, a part of the platform goes missing, and the ball becomes slightly mishaped. If I had to have a theory, I would put forward the idea that in this version of the game, for whatever reason, the ball is not visable, and so this rather fancy ball was put on during editing (but rather sloppy, if I am right).

    Pure speculation but hey, it does look too good for the Genesis to me.
     
  11. Tweaker

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    Whoa! That's pretty cool!

    Someone make a gif of this please. I'm totally editing my boss to look like that. =P
     
  12. Varion Icaria

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    Shit that's fucking AWESOME.
     
  13. Rika Chou

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    Looks more like video quality issues if you ask me.
     
  14. Deathbyteacup

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    Not really, if you look a good portion of the platform goes away. You'll notice it better if you watch it frame by frame in Media Player / Winamp or whatnot. The corner of the platform (where it's dark) is covered by the ball rather than the ball going under it, and it only starts to go under the platform from about the seccond 'square' in (the light square) on the platform.

    It just looks edited to me.

    Anyway, look at the shading of the thing. Could you even manage that with the pallete used / on the genesis?
     
  15. Adamis

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    Awesome find!
    It would be interesting to have a video of Sonic on the checkered ball( like in the beta pictures) too
     
  16. Dioxaz

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    Note that this is originally a French commercial (even the "Sega c'est plus fort que toi" has been translated litterally at the end). And I bet it would be exactly the same (but noone ever knows). Unfortunately, that French version can't be found anywhere.
     
  17. Elusive

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    I can equally see both. +1 vote for video quality. Play it in fullscreen and in Slow mode in WMP to see its fuzziness.

    Also, how hard would it be to get a white sprite to move across the ball, to simulate the white reflection?

    It almost looks like a ruby crystal smashing thing, not a great huge clod of earth XD
     
  18. LocalH

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    No, he doesn't. He's close, but he misses it just barely.

    It's hard to tell, with this shitty video quality. If we somehow had a full resolution capture at 720x576, even from a shitty format like VHS, we might have a bit more luck at being able to tell. I think it's possible to do something sort of similar to that on the Genesis, but the absolute shit quality of the video severely hampers my ability to make any sort of determination at all about this particular effect.
     
  19. Spindash54

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    For those that want to figure out timeline wise when this is, I'd say after the H.A.G. video. I loaded up the game and the BG is in the same position, where as in the H.A.G. commercial, the BG for GHZ wasn't yet lined up with the final BG location.

    Also, I blame the "missing platform" on video quality. The right corner is rounded compared to the left, and is a little darker than the left, so crappy footage would make a disapearance seem likley.
     
  20. McAleeCh

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    See those little bits of the tops of the cliff that stick up behind the top of the platform? The ball goes in front of the background, but behind those little bits that are close to the platform. =P That combined with the going-through-the-platform effect leads me to believe it's not just video quality, as those bits of cliff shouldn't show in front of the ball no matter what.
     
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