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Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by Jay T., Nov 20, 2017.

  1. Jay T.

    Jay T.

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    For a while, I've been meaning to upgrade my computer, but with the release of the Ryzen CPUs, I think it's time to build a new PC from scratch. My original budget was around $500-600, but it seems like I may have to go a bit higher (and I can, but not sure how much). How much higher depends on how things go money-wise during December, but I don't want to go too high. I'll figure out something by then. I do know a few parts I can get, but I need help on the others. But if you think there's parts that are better than what I have below, mention them please.

    CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 Quad Core
    Motherboard: AsRock AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX
    Hard Drive: Western Digital 1TB
    Solid State Drive: Sandisk SSD Plus 120GB

    I kind of have an idea of what to get for some of the other parts, but still need help.

    GPU: Either the GTX 1050 or GTX 1050 Ti. Latter is more expensive, but worth it, maybe? The question is though, which brand? (EDIT: Guess it helps to mention that I don't really play many graphically intensive games like GTA V, CoD, or something along those lines. Might have to get the 1050 to cut back the costs a bit. Plus I may need to buy a VGA-HDMI cable and a splitter since one of my montiors still uses VGA.)

    RAM: 8GB of memory, preferably a DDR4 2133 or 2400, if not higher. I usually go for G. Skill, but I found out about the whole compatibility thing with the motherboard. (EDIT: Seems like that list isn't 100%. Going to the PCPartPicker site, looks like people are using RAM that isn't on the list. Seems like these new DDR4 RAMs are pretty expensive though.)

    PSU: Thinking a 500W-550W PSU, especially if I plan to upgrade my CPU and/or GPU later on. Again, brand is the question here. (EDIT: Maybe this?. Think I overestimated how much wattage you really need.)

    CPU Cooling: I do want to try and overclock the Ryzen eventually. What kind of cooling system would be effective? I probably could take my Hyper Cooler 212 Evo's heatsink from my current build and buy new fans (Probably Noctua). I will have to buy a bracket to fit the AM4 motherboard though, which I think is free from the manufacturer. Alternatively, there is liquid cooling. More expensive, but it does seem like the H60 will get the job done. The whole leaking thing does worry me though. I have read that it hardly ever happens, but I'm still a bit concerned. I do at least know if something happens, Corsair will replace/pay for it. What are your thoughts?

    Case: Thinking a Mid Tower with a side panel. Fortunately even pretty decent cases are pretty cheap nowadays. I kind of wanted something a bit on the fancy side like my NZXT Apollo, but I think at this point I more care about good airflow. Would like something in the less than $50 range, if possible. (EDIT: Maybe this case?)

    I think that might be it for now. I'm gonna try to order the parts soon, preferably as soon as December begins.
     
  2. rata

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    I would try first see how much can do the stock cooler. I found the Spire cooler enough for the 1600 even at 3.8 as long as there are some airflow on the case. Ryzen 3 coems with a smaller cooler, but since it has 2 less cores it may be enough as well.Build is balanced so it is okay, it seems that you know what you need. But as I said, check if the stock cooler is enough before getting headaches with liquid cooling and stuff. Get the AM4 bracket for your hyper cooler if it's free so you can get lower temps, but I wouldn't spend much on cooling.
     
  3. Qjimbo

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    If you're not looking to play intensive games you might find a Geforce 1030 sufficient if you're looking to save a bit of money - Phils computer lab did some testing with this card. While 8GB of RAM is ok, if you ever plan on doing music or video production, you'll want to go for 16GB - also future proofs your computer as software takes more and more RAM. For PSUs I'd normally say go EVGA or Corsair, but Seasonic does have a good rep as well. For the case I'd also say Corsair, the 100R silent is a nice clean looking case for a good price. For the rest you seem to be on the right track, I've never tried liquid cooling, its certainly not mainstream, so bear that in mind that air cooling might keep things simpler.
     
  4. rata

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    Regarding to the PSU, keep in mind that a good Corsair PSU may be, in fact, a rebranded SeaSonic or SuperFlower PSU, as Corsair does not manufacture their PSUs. Also keep in mind that some other models of the same brand can be made by other manufacturers with lower quality.The M12II Evo may be a bit agenin in it's design but it is still a solid and reliable thing.
     
  5. Jay T.

    Jay T.

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    I totally forgot about this thread. Sorry.

    I went ahead and ordered the parts and they should be on their way now. On the topic of the cooler, I'm gonna use the cooler that comes with the Ryzen 3 for now, partially because Cooler Master doesn't have the X-shaped bracket for AM4 Motherboards. But they recently closed their online store down for maintenance and stated they should have them in stock by December 5th. Once they restock, I'll order one ASAP. Also turns out it's not free since I gotta pay for shipping, but no surprise there. I am curious how well the stock cooler will perform though. Looking at the case and all the places you can put a fan (there's 1 in the front and rear already), it should have pretty nice airflow. Probably gonna use a couple of fans in my current build and place them in the new one. Don't think I'll touch liquid cooling anytime soon. I don't think I need it.

    I do plan on getting another stick of 8GB RAM later on. Also decided to get the GTX 1050.

    This is what I ordered.
    CPU: Ryzen 3 1200
    MoBo: Asrock AB350M Pro4
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400
    SSD: SSD Plus 240GB 2.5"
    HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5"
    GPU: Zontac GTX 1050
    Case: Deepcool Tesseract SW ATX Mid Tower
    PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze

    Thanks for the help guys.