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Sonic Mania Plus (Consoles Physical; PC Digital) - WARNING, SPOILERS Mighty and Ray Are Back In Town

#631 User is offline ICEknight 

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By the way, I hope they remove the flash that occurs when the Heavy Gunner grabs the missile launcher. It just feels like a weird shortcut to avoid having to animate the grab (like those that make the ending look worse than it should).
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I mentioned this before in this thread but didn't make a video to show what I thought would be good if this was done...
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View PostNeo, on Yesterday, 05:47 AM, said:

It's not cheating if you're just running the code that's in the game. Also: rude.

And that is why I don't respect speedrunning.

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I'm pretty disappointed that so many skips haven't been patched. I swear, in 90% of cases it's actually as simple as just adding more invisible collision blocks to prevent players from getting over parts of the map.
There better be a leaderboard reset.
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View Postkyasarintsu, on Yesterday, 11:35 AM, said:

I'm pretty disappointed that so many skips haven't been patched. I swear, in 90% of cases it's actually as simple as just adding more invisible collision blocks to prevent players from getting over parts of the map.
There better be a leaderboard reset.

I'm almost positive that's going to be the case

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Hopefully they took a good look at DSS's glitch videos and sought out fixes to those.

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Oh my god I can't go away for 3 days without something happening, can I?

Edited the thread title to include a spoiler warning.

Back on topic: People complaining about bugs being patched simply for the sake of being able to exploit them for speedrunning are just whining because the game's problems are being fixed. Find new bugs to exploit, the rest of us would much rather have a more solid game.

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Pretty much the same happen in an incremental game, Kittens Game, where there was a bug that let you have infinite resources insted of having a storage cap for them. When the beta with that bug fix apeared, the whine storm and tears waves flooded the subreddit.

Just cheaters wanting to feel better while doing things wrong instead of just not doing it in first place.

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Exploits can be fun, but I'd much rather see bugs patched out. I prefer not needing to break a game's engine just to be competitive at speedrunning it.

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Yelling "cheater cheater pumpkin eater" at speedrunners is amusing to watch but ultimately unhelpful. Skips that are there and require genuine skill rather than luck to use are gonna get used. It's not cheating when the tech is accessible to all who choose to learn it.

That said, games get patched and skips get removed. Speedrunning is a show of skill, and adapting to reasonable amounts of change is a skill too. IMO, the skips that involve getting an abnormally high jump/boost are reasonable to see patched, because you're explicitly leaving the game area, and usually using that to completely fly over sections of and/or the entirety of a level. It's more than just a little ridiculous, and it's not a particularly interesting to watch in a speedrul either. There's a reason you usually don't see people crowding around to watch, say, a 100% run of Super Mario World where the player cape-flies over every outdoor level in the game, compared to a run that features strong movement tech.
This, again, isn't to say I consider it cheating in any way, just that I find it uninteresting to watch in speedrunning streams/videos.

The one thing that does bug me is the fact that the patch seems to have intentionally made one tedious boss even more tedious.
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Which, speaking of that zone...

View PostSpanner, on Yesterday, 11:16 AM, said:

I mentioned this before in this thread but didn't make a video to show what I thought would be good if this was done...
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I gotta be real, I'm not too into it. It's way too intense for a scene like that. It definitely feels as though it's missing something with just the thunder sound effects though.
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I love you all. A suggestion: monologues aren't needed right now. My opinion entirely.

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Question, was it mentioned if the original metal sonic boss fight is going to be completely replaced in such a way as that we would never be able to play it again ? Or will there be options to play? Cause it would be kind of sad to see it vanish completely.

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Just watched a clip including the HCZ to MSZ transition. Not impressed, I was hoping it would involve Sonic and Tails meeting Knuckles and catching the Tornado together.

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View PostChebghobbi, on 49 minutes ago, said:

Just watched a clip including the HCZ to MSZ transition. Not impressed, I was hoping it would involve Sonic and Tails meeting Knuckles and catching the Tornado together.

Considering that this cutscene in particular is unskippable (But the other cutscenes are skippable.), as well as the fact that the cutscene feels unfinished, points towards the transition not being complete in this build of the update.

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View PostChebghobbi, on 49 minutes ago, said:

Just watched a clip including the HCZ to MSZ transition. Not impressed, I was hoping it would involve Sonic and Tails meeting Knuckles and catching the Tornado together.


That's probably because it isn't finished / completed yet. Remember this is a leak, and in an ideal world, wouldn't have been seen by any of us until it was all ready.

EDIT: On a completely off-topic question; any reason these spoiler tags aren't working for me? As in, I can't "un-spoiler" them so I'm having to click quote and read each post individually. x_x
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View PostNarstyle, on 32 minutes ago, said:

That's probably because it isn't finished / completed yet. Remember this is a leak, and in an ideal world, wouldn't have been seen by any of us until it was all ready.

EDIT: On a completely off-topic question; any reason these spoiler tags aren't working for me? As in, I can't "un-spoiler" them so I'm having to click quote and read each post individually. x_x

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I've had it disabled around Sonic Retro because of their April Fools pranks in the past. Maybe you've disabled it.

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