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How to do the level select in Sonic 3 Video in slowmotion with key log

#31 User is offline LOst 

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ICEknight, on Nov 11 2004, 01:38 AM, said:

magraimon, on Oct 28 2004, 08:04 PM, said:

ICEknight, on Oct 27 2004, 05:04 PM, said:

magraimon, on Oct 27 2004, 02:52 PM, said:

I once managed the cheat by pure fluke on my gamecube version (on 50hz because the music is slower :D),

Wierd... the music in Sonic 3 shouldn't be slower in 50 Hz mode.

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yet when I was am kid and was borrowing it from a friend, I almost always got that cheat to work @_@ .. how on earth did I do it !?!?

PAL MegaDrives run at 50Hz.

yah, sonic games in 50hz run slower than 60hz. I've tested it, and I hella prefer the 50hz s1/s2 boss themes.

The music in Sonic 2 shouldn't play slower, either...

Actually, the music is updated each frame, so it should play slower.

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LOst, on Nov 10 2004, 10:32 PM, said:

ICEknight, on Nov 11 2004, 01:38 AM, said:

magraimon, on Oct 28 2004, 08:04 PM, said:

ICEknight, on Oct 27 2004, 05:04 PM, said:

magraimon, on Oct 27 2004, 02:52 PM, said:

I once managed the cheat by pure fluke on my gamecube version (on 50hz because the music is slower :D),

Wierd... the music in Sonic 3 shouldn't be slower in 50 Hz mode.

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yet when I was am kid and was borrowing it from a friend, I almost always got that cheat to work @_@ .. how on earth did I do it !?!?

PAL MegaDrives run at 50Hz.

yah, sonic games in 50hz run slower than 60hz. I've tested it, and I hella prefer the 50hz s1/s2 boss themes.

The music in Sonic 2 shouldn't play slower, either...

Actually, the music is updated each frame, so it should play slower.

In the PAL versions of S2/S3/S&K*, SEGA fixed the music so that it ran at the same speed as on the 60Hz versions.

Does anyone actually have those ROMs?

*(Actually on the Megadrive, that is - I'm assuming SEGA didn't bother to change the ROMs for the PAL releases of SMC/+)
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Like I said in one of the topics in Sonic Games Discussion, the music speed and gameplay is slower in Sonic one on the SMC. Maybe it's the same with all the other ones?

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Knuckles Prower said:

In the PAL versions of S2/S3/S&K*, SEGA fixed the music so that it ran at the same speed as on the 60Hz versions.

Does anyone actually have those ROMs?

*(Actually on the Megadrive, that is - I'm assuming SEGA didn't bother to change the ROMs for the PAL releases of SMC/+)


Need I dust off my sonic 2 cart and prove you wrong ?

Sonic 2 music is slower in 50hz. Fact. wasn't fixed. Like it slower.

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magraimon, on Nov 11 2004, 01:19 PM, said:

Need I dust off my sonic 2 cart and prove you wrong ?

Sonic 2 music is slower in 50hz. Fact. wasn't fixed. Like it slower.

No, it plays at the right speed unlike in Sonic 1. Fact.



Unless you have revision 00? Maybe that's what they fixed, hmmm.

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Mayhaps, but my sonic 2 cart for my megadrive plays the music slower than any rom or 60hz version (smc) I've seen. Fact ;)

I had played it since godknows how long. when I got into the emulation scene, and got a rom of sonic2, I was confused as to why the music was faster, and thought it was a bug in the emu, until I heard recorded mp3s on the net of the songs

edit: Not sure if it amounts to anything, but the megadrive is the first version.
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#37 User is offline ICEknight 

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Dump, please.

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I don't know about S2, but the music is definitely slower in S1/3/3K. They were all fixed in Sonic Jam though, which was quite a shock when I first played it.

#39 User is offline ICEknight 

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Wierd, I'm 100% sure that the only Sonic game that plays the music slower on my PAL MegaDrive is Sonic 1. Even Sonic Spinball has it at the right speed.

You can also check the music speed by turning the emulators to PAL before loading the ROMs. It should work this way in real systems unless your cartdriges have different ROMs or there's something strange going on with your MegaDrive


By the way, Sonic 2 didn't have this music speed fix until very late in its development, judging from the existant PAL video footage.

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