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Sonic Generations Megathread II WORD ON THE STREET: IT CAN'T BE BEAT

#451 User is offline Cyrus Parker 

Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:29 PM

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The GameStop I preordered at decided they weren't gonna do a midnight launch tonight, so I'm gonna have to wait til tomorrow morning. 8D

#452 User is offline Ceej 

Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:29 PM

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That's pretty funny. You only play as Sonic, and in most of the challenges I've played the characters actually add to the missions in ways that are interesting (Chemical Plant Tails mission is awesome).

I don't really understand the hate, the level lineup could have been better but there have been much worse Sonic games than this.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:36 PM

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So I have release day shipping for this game (live in the US). When's it supposed to ship?

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:38 PM

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Wee hours of the morning typically but, that depends on where you live. If Amazon, that's who I'm assuming you bought from, doesn't ship it in time I'd demand a refund.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:39 PM

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I see a lot of critics complaining about the bottomless pits. Normally I would shrug that kind of thing off as a really dumb complaint, but after thinking about it a little I think I now see the problem.

The problem is that Sonic games are really bad at explaining its gameplay mechanics.

The moment the game tells you that you can boost, the player's first instinct is to use it with reckless abandon. But that's not how you're supposed to be playing. Not that it would tell you that, in fact the first few levels reinforce this behavior. It's only after the game starts ramping up in difficulty (causing the player to start dying repeatedly for doing what he thought he was supposed to be doing) that the player figures out how he is supposed to play the game.

There are a few ways they could fix this problem, one of which is to take the Bethesda Game Studios approach and remove the boost mechanic (or bottomless pits) entirely. Otherwise, they would have to find a way to communicate to the player that boosting constantly is going to kill you. One way they could do this is to have Sonic say something like "This area looks dangerous, better slow down!" when entering a platforming-heavy location. However, that would probably get really old really fast, so if they did this it should be optional like the bottomless pit signs. Another way to do this is simply not to reinforce the bad behavior in the first place, by punishing the player for doing it from the start (preferably not with instant death).

Basically, in order for Sega to get Sonic games to get really good review scores is to make them idiot-proof.

Even that might not work, though, seeing as the one thing Sega can't fix no matter how hard they try are the critics. There doesn't seem to be any knowledge prerequisite for becoming a video game reviewer, so sometimes you'll get someone who doesn't have the slightest clue about platformers reviewing one. It doesn't help that there seems to be a predisposition towards disliking Sonic games among critics at the moment. But if Sonic games continue to improve like they have, then critics may warm up to them once more.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:41 PM

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I forgot to change my Sonic Generations shipping to on release date.

So now I'm getting it at the same time the stinky europoors get it.

Not the slight bit angry because Off the Record arrives tomorrow.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:48 PM

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Yea, they (Amazon) sometimes notify you pretty late that your game has shipped, I had this same response time with Arkham City when they sent me a late night confirmed shipment email after the game was sent off hours earlier.

Oddly enough they've already notified me that Uncharted 3 has shipped...sadly it's being done through UPS which means I'll probably receive it after 6:00pm(I assume it'll be the same with Generations since they're both out the same date).
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:52 PM

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Around here, Amazon always uses some random ass shipping service called Lasership. I believe it's due to their being an Amazon warehouse/supplier right near Boston.

#459 User is offline Lanzer 

Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:53 PM

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...Did gametrailers just say "Upcoming DLC"?! I'm I hearing that right?...

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:53 PM

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View PostRolfTheUber, on 31 October 2011 - 11:39 PM, said:

*awesomely put logical stuff*


Also, I believe that memorization is key to mastering this game.
Reviewers make it sound like the pits are incredibly obnoxious, but really, if they're that hard to manuever around (and frankly, most of them aren't) then they should think about memorizing the stages a bit so they won't fall down as many as often.

View PostLanzer, on 31 October 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

...Did gametrailers just say "Upcoming DLC"?! I'm I hearing that right?...


Yeah, I heard that too. I wasn't sure what to make of it.
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View PostGuess Who, on 31 October 2011 - 11:22 PM, said:

GameTrailers review is out. 8.1.




"That's not to say that hte results are flawless. There's still scant instances of cheap deaths and frustrating objectives."

And then they cut to the clip where they jumped to a clearly visible pitfall.

God I love video reviews.

#462 User is offline Tylinos 

Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:56 PM

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You can tell the press and hype for the game is good when you go up to get Generations and the guy at the counter is actually pleased you're getting it, even with Uncharted 3 coming out the same day.

Also, possibly off topic: This midnight launch being on Halloween was perfect; There were a few people in the store in costume, including really good Ezio and Ledger-Joker costumes, and one guy in an absolutely ridiculous full-body Sonic costume.


Oh, and does anyone know where I have to put in the DLC code for Casino Night? Is it in a game menu, or on the Playstation Store's code redeeming section?

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Most likely Playstation Store.

#464 User is offline Tylinos 

Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:00 AM

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Yeah, Playstation Store was it. Looks like it comes with a pair of themes as well. I must've missed that part when they announced it. One seems to be Green Hill / White Void based, and the other featuring the bosses.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:12 AM

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Well all right, this game is on its way to my dorm room. It's in Kentucky, so it has to go ↑ & ↓ & ↻ before it gets here.

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